Comments on: Failure – How and when? http://www.nicollecjones.com/archives/149?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=failure-how-and-when blog vomit in the tralfamadorian tradition Thu, 20 May 2010 21:09:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nicolle http://www.nicollecjones.com/archives/149#comment-289 nicolle Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:25:41 +0000 http://www.nicollecjones.com/archives/149#comment-289 I could call it a first draft- I've been working, but it's changed, and it would be the equivalent of say replacing the "Temple of Doom" in Temple with a South American pyramid or something- the plot has been rehauled substantially because I got some feedback that the story wasn't good enough for the characters, so I ported them to this new series of events. So is that considered a first draft or not? Because at one point I did have 125 pages with Fade Out on the end- but yeah, not so much anymore. The new draft is not overly long, I know the beats I want to hit and the key scenes I need, it's more just hammering out the best version of a scene that moves the story along, and because I'm not being as loose as I would in first draft it's painstakingly slow. I should probably tackle it like a first draft and then go back and cut. That might be where I'm getting stuck. And yeah, Love for character- Don't really think I'll have a problem dragging them up the mountain, cause I've got a bit of a sadistic streak in me and throwing them into torturous situations, hell that's half the fun of writing. I could call it a first draft- I’ve been working, but it’s changed, and it would be the equivalent of say replacing the “Temple of Doom” in Temple with a South American pyramid or something- the plot has been rehauled substantially because I got some feedback that the story wasn’t good enough for the characters, so I ported them to this new series of events.

So is that considered a first draft or not? Because at one point I did have 125 pages with Fade Out on the end- but yeah, not so much anymore.

The new draft is not overly long, I know the beats I want to hit and the key scenes I need, it’s more just hammering out the best version of a scene that moves the story along, and because I’m not being as loose as I would in first draft it’s painstakingly slow. I should probably tackle it like a first draft and then go back and cut. That might be where I’m getting stuck.

And yeah, Love for character- Don’t really think I’ll have a problem dragging them up the mountain, cause I’ve got a bit of a sadistic streak in me and throwing them into torturous situations, hell that’s half the fun of writing.

]]> By: Unk http://www.nicollecjones.com/archives/149#comment-288 Unk Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:13:20 +0000 http://www.nicollecjones.com/archives/149#comment-288 I'm assuming this is a first draft? If so, go ahead and be as free as you want with your characters... If they are taking up too much of the story -- so be it. GET IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM. It's okay to end up with a first draft of 165 pages... LOL. That's what my first drafts almost always end up at... Get it out of your system NOW and not during the rewrite phase... Let your characters dazzle you with their brilliance now because on the next draft, you'll have to be ruthless. How long is too long? There is no such thing on a first draft... Admittedly, when a first draft soars near 200 plus pages, you do have a little harder time cutting back on subsequent drafts... Well at least some do -- I don't. I never fall in love with my characters... I love them -- don't get me wrong but I don't fall IN LOVE with them. They can't love me back so why bother? Makes it easier to drag them up SHIT MOUNTAIN. Unk I’m assuming this is a first draft?

If so, go ahead and be as free as you want with your characters… If they are taking up too much of the story — so be it. GET IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM.

It’s okay to end up with a first draft of 165 pages… LOL. That’s what my first drafts almost always end up at…

Get it out of your system NOW and not during the rewrite phase… Let your characters dazzle you with their brilliance now because on the next draft, you’ll have to be ruthless.

How long is too long?

There is no such thing on a first draft… Admittedly, when a first draft soars near 200 plus pages, you do have a little harder time cutting back on subsequent drafts… Well at least some do — I don’t.

I never fall in love with my characters… I love them — don’t get me wrong but I don’t fall IN LOVE with them. They can’t love me back so why bother?

Makes it easier to drag them up SHIT MOUNTAIN.

Unk

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